i'm an expert on the economy. i'll tell you why the economy is down, why politicians are trying to hold it down, ask the political expert. >> tell me in economic terms. in other words, i thought you were having countercyclical. robert reich is talking about kou countercyclicals. the unemployment rate has come down to just under 8%. shouldn't safety net programs be automatically pulled back? it seems like that's not happening this cycle. and i want to know why. >> they made a new set of rules and they are rules that two on indefinitely. they modernized eligibility for unemployment insurance to name one of a dozen. there's no plans to unmodernize it. modernize means letting a lot more people in who don't have strong attachments to the workforce. >> here's something, mr. mulligan, professor mulligan has an important point. there are a lot of people now who are less attached to the workforce than they used to be. we have about almost 14% to 18% of our workers are contingent workers. part-time workers looking for full-